Me: We take care of people when they come in to the hospital and our sick anyway. Shouldn't they have insurance so they pay for their own care, instead of us footing the bill?
Him: That's not freedom.
Me: Universal mandatory coverage was championed by Mitt Romney (a Republican) in the MA Health Insurance Plan.
Him: It was a mistake. He's not a leader in the Republican party.
Me: Should all kids have insurance? Should we leave kids dying on the streets because they have no health care?
Him: That is up to their parents. If their parents are taking care of the kid, their are other ways to take care of that. You can call the authorities. You cannot tell a parent to purchase health insurance for their child. That is not freedom.
Me: I'm a doctor and and worry about my patients. I just want everyone to be able to have good health care.
Him: What you liberals don't get is that socialism didn't work. The Nazis and Russians failed because they didn't allow Freedom. [Note: the Nazis were not socialists and the Russians were communists.]
So I guess he's calling me a Jewish Nazi? He was so angry, and just kept repeating, "Freedom." Is there a conversation to be had about shared American values, or should progressives just talk to the majority of Americans that believe in health for our communities and families?
He shook my hand at the end and said he had no hard feelings against me. I told him I believed in Freedom too.
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While unlikely to convince someone who is so ingrained in their belief system, you can always hope to plant a seed that can grow into understanding.
His fixation on freedom could be flipped by citing Roosevelt's Four Freedoms -- the first two he undoubted supports (speech, religion), but Freedom from want and Freedom from fear are relevant: providing for those who do not have much, and protecting all of us from the fear of dying for lack of money to obtain health care.
Grant, Roosevelt in his mind is probably some socialistic communist who tried to turn the US over to the Nazi's ... so, that may not have helped either.
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